Novinky z hardwaru: levný chipset pro dvoujádrové procesory

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ktc  |  16. 06. 2005 00:59  | 

Podle prvních informací se bude jednat o velmi výkonné grafické karty.

to je ale uplne nova informace!!! :)

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proton  |  16. 06. 2005 09:26  | 

"Procesory AMD měli vždy ve vínku nižší rychlost, než třeba konkurence od Intelu, ovšem nový Athlon FX-57 by to mohl změnit. Nový Athlon bude již z výroby běžet na 2 800 MHz, bude se tak jednat o nejrychlejší CPU od AMD. ..."

Kdy si konecne prestanete plest rychlost procesoru od jeho frekvence. O rychlosti procesoru nerozhoduje pouze jeho frekvence, ale hlavne jeho architektura, ktera pak muze v urcite oblasti dosahovat vetsich vykonu nez konkurence. AMD to jiz prokazala (nemluve o RISC procesorech, kde se frekvence pohybuje kolem 2GHz, ale na servery to bohate staci, protoze vetsinou neni treba uzivat specialni instrukce pro multimedia).

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hrubka, hrubka  |  16. 06. 2005 09:36  | 

Kdyz na to koukam - tak mi to proste neda:
"Procesory AMD meli..."

Shoda podmetu s prisudkem.
Samozrejme, je nevhodne psat to sem, ale me zkusenosti s oznamovanim hrubek na email autorum zive jsou velmi spatne.

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Vlado  |  16. 06. 2005 09:27  | 

>Procesory AMD měli vždy ve vínku nižší rychlost, než třeba konkurence od Intelu.
Aky hlupak to pisal? AMD uz prekonava Intel prakticky skoro vo vsetkych testoch ci uz Lowende alebo Highende!

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Zajemce  |  16. 06. 2005 11:37  | 

Levný chipset pro nevýkonný a drahý KO(in)TEL ?
Brrr,ještěže opteroňácké čipsety dělá sám výrobce a ne intel

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peto  |  16. 06. 2005 12:44  | 

Intel vydesil svet
Update 1: Intel Explores Possible Vietnam Plant(aj tam s potrebuju prikurit :)))) )

AMD desi svet High Performace computing
In comparing customer-reported HPC Challenge results for three large-scale systems of about the same size, an 1,100-processor Cray XT3 supercomputer had the best scores on seven of the 10 "condensed results" tests, compared to an SGI Altix 3700 system with 1,008 processors and an IBM Blue Gene system with 1,024 processors. In the seven tests, the Cray XT3 typically outperformed the next-best system by a factor of two to five times, and was up to 17 times faster than the third-ranking system.

a to este ma

May 18, 2005 08:02 - IBM eServer® BladeCenter™ blade servers support 32-/64-bit LS20 AMD Opteron processors running at speeds of 2.0, 2.4, or 2.6 GHz (Single Core) as well as 2.0 GHz (Dual Core), all with 1 MB L2 cache per core. Processors support 64-bit OS from Linux™ Red Hat, SUSE LINUX, and Microsoft™ and can run in legacy mode. Optionally available Ethernet, FC, and Infiniband switches and adapters; redundant KVM management; and power modules support multiple configurations.

High density: Up to fourteen AMD Opteron LS20 for IBM eServer® BladeCenter blade servers can be installed in a new IBM eServer BladeCenter chassis (8677-3XX). Also, they may be installed or in an existing BladeCenter chassis (8677-1XX or 8677-2XX) at full density after an upgrade with the new 2,000-watt (ano 2000 W na 14 Server-ov to je 71W na Server, ktory ma dual core Opteron alebo dokonca dva dual core Opterony)

a aby to nebolo koniec Linux-u a AMD(XD1 je Linux system, XT3 je Linux+Catamount system a Ls20 je dominantne Linux system )

A German PC shop is shipping a tiny Geode-based PC available with a choice of Linux operating systems. Concept Distribution's "miniPC" measures 5.5 x 5.1 x 1.4 inches (13 x 14 x 3.5cm), and is available with thin-client and general-purpose Linux OSes.

Features include:

* AMD Geode GX2-533 (400 MHz)
* 256MB RAM (128MB available on thin-client version)
* 64MB Flash available in thin-client version, which alternatively can be configured for network-boot
* 40 or 80 GB hard drive
* Two front- and two rear-mounted USB 1.1 ports
* Front-mounted stereo I/O ports
* 100Mbps Ethernet
* VGA port supporting UXGA (1600 x 1200) video at 85 Hz

The thin client version includes X11 and a FlashPlayer, and also includes a kiosk-mode option.
The miniPC is available direct from Concept Distribution, with prices starting at 346.84 Euros. The thin-client version starts at 265.64 Euros

http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5147900390.html


Availability

The miniPC is available direct from Concept Distribution, with prices starting at 346.84 Euros. The thin-client version starts at 265.64 Euros.I

napriek tomu sa vyrobcovaia navrhovych systemom nevedia stotoznit s tym, ze AMD vyvyja od roku 1997 na Linux-e uz dva roky len na nom.
Ale vychodny blok
AMD has created over 7000 jobs, both directly(priamo ich je v Fab30 2000 vo Fab 36 bude 2300 a kde je ten zvysok) and indirectly, in the state of Saxony since 1996.



IBM a AMD skokuju 68W (alebo 34W)dual core Opteron @ 2Ghz
News StoryServers are available with AMD Opteron LS20 processor.

Servers are available with AMD Opteron LS20 processor.

May 18, 2005 08:02 - IBM eServer® BladeCenter™ blade servers support 32-/64-bit LS20 AMD Opteron processors running at speeds of 2.0, 2.4, or 2.6 GHz (Single Core) as well as 2.0 GHz (Dual Core), all with 1 MB L2 cache per core. Processors support 64-bit OS from Linux™ Red Hat, SUSE LINUX, and Microsoft™ and can run in legacy mode. Optionally available Ethernet, FC, and Infiniband switches and adapters; redundant KVM management; and power modules support multiple configurations.

company web site Company web site

Press Release

AMD Opteron LS20 for IBM eServer BladeCenter Packs High Density Into Less Space

Overview

Extend the capabilities of your high-density IBM BladeCenter™ with AMD Opteron LS20 for IBM eServer® BladeCenter blade servers that include AMD Opteron 32-/64-bit processors running at speeds of 2.0 GHz, 2.4 GHz, 2.6 GHz Single Core, and 2.0 GHz Dual Core — all with 1 MB L2 cache per core.

The processors are low-power, full-performance Opteron processors. If you are concerned with power consumption and heat output, these unique low-power processors can help to reduce the operational cost in deploying these blades.

The Opteron processors support 64-bit operating systems from Linux™ Red Hat, SUSE LINUX, and Microsoft™.

The processors also can run in legacy mode (where a 32-bit application is running under a 64-bit operating system) and remain fully compatible with 32-bit applications and operating systems.

High density: Up to fourteen AMD Opteron LS20 for IBM eServer® BladeCenter blade servers can be installed in a new IBM eServer BladeCenter chassis (8677-3XX). Also, they may be installed or in an existing BladeCenter chassis (8677-1XX or 8677-2XX) at full density after an upgrade with the new 2,000-watt power supply option (26K4816). In addition, up to eight of these new LS20 blade servers may be installed in the BladeCenter T chassis (8720-1RX and 8730-1RX) with appropriate firmware.

Powerful blade-thin computing: The eServer BladeCenter chassis and AMD Opteron LS20 for IBM eServer BladeCenter blade servers are the key components to building your blade configuration. Optionally available Ethernet, Fibre Channel, and Infiniband switches and adapters, redundant keyboard video mouse (KVM) management, and power modules support advanced configurations.

New servers include:

· 2.0 GHz, 2.4 GHz, 2.6 GHz Single Core and 2.0 GHz Dual Core AMD Opteron processors, including 1 MB L2 cache per core and full 64-bit support

· Two-way SMP processing with a 1 GHz HyperTransport processor link


Powerful AMD-based blade server delivers new levels of flexibility and choice for your high performance computing applications.

Designed to support the AMD Opteron family of single and dual core processors the LS20 blades are packed with features. When combined with the BladeCenter™ the LS20 delivers density without sacrificing processor performance or availability. For applications that are limited by memory performance the LS20 may bring sizeable performance gains.
upports up to two AMD Opteron processors

• AMD Opteron offers an Integrated Memory Controller which allows for increased bandwidth and reduced latency for certain applications.
• BladeCenter supports lower power versions of all these full performance Opteron processors. These 68W processors draw nearly 1/3 less power than the standard 95W AMD offering.
• Supporting both 64- and 32-bit applications allows for a smooth transition to 64-bit enabled applications while leveraging the price and performance of existing applications.

Operating System Support

• RedHAT 4 (AS, ES, WS)
RedHAT4 (AS, ES, WS) for x64
SUSE Linux ES 9
SuSE Linux ES 9 for x64
• Windows Server 2003 & R2
RedHAT 3 (AS, ES, WS)
RedHAT 3 (AS, ES, WS) for x64

Planned availability date

June 17, 2005

http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/opteron/LS20_more_info.html
http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/463492
http://www.tomshardware.com/hardnews/20050615_164143.html
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/06/15/ibm_opteron_cluster/

An entry-level LS20 costs $2,259 for a model with a single 2GHz Opteron 248 and 1GB of memory, IBM said. With AMD's 2GHz dual-core Opteron 270, the price rises to $3,649. The systems can accommodate two Opterons.
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-5748708.html?tag=zdfd.newsfeed
http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=3075

Z takej spravy je clovek "jelen" a nepozmoze ani AMD cennik
http://www.amd.com/pricing


a mozno to bude splnat priemyslenu normu
Industrial Temperature Networking

* AMD Industrial Temperature PHYs and Controllers are guaranteed functional from -40°C to +85°C

http://www.amd.com/us-en/ConnectivitySolutions/ConnectivityApplications/0,,50_2332,00.html

a to sa tyka aj Flash
http://www.amd.com/us-en/FlashMemory/ProductInformation/0,,37_1447,00.html

ale su aj lepsie

Aimed at automation systems in the harsh environments encountered in transport and industrial control, Fastwel has just introduced a 110 x 150 mm single board computer that operates over a -40C to +105C temperature range.

The heart of this board is anx86-compatiable VEGA processor from SMicroelectronics with MMX support and Pentium-II performance. It also includes the LynxEM+ graphical controller with a 4MB integrated video memory, consumes only 1W and is able to operate with two independent video interfaces (Dual Display support).
http://www.embedded.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=164900016

AMD Opteron Processor-Powered Cray Supercomputers Post Best Overall Results on HPC Challenge Benchmark Tests
06.16.05, 12:01 AM ET

Cray XT3, Cray XD1 Designs Exploit AMD Opteron Processors and HyperTransport Technology to Excel on Benchmarks and Win Business

Two Cray supercomputer products that masterfully leverage the AMD Opteron(TM) processor and HyperTransport(TM) technology, the Cray XT3(TM) and Cray XD1(TM) systems, have posted leading overall results on the HPC Challenge benchmark tests, AMD (NYSE:AMD) and Cray (NASDAQ:CRAY) reported today.

HPC Challenge results are gaining importance as customers increasingly use them to help decide which high-performance computers to buy. For example, CSCS, the Swiss National Supercomputing Center, relied heavily on HPC Challenge results when it recently selected a Cray XT3 system with 1,100 AMD Opteron processors that will be one of Europe's most powerful supercomputers.

In comparing customer-reported HPC Challenge results for three large-scale systems of about the same size, an 1,100-processor Cray XT3 supercomputer had the best scores on seven of the 10 "condensed results" tests, compared to an SGI Altix 3700 system with 1,008 processors and an IBM Blue Gene system with 1,024 processors. In the seven tests, the Cray XT3 typically outperformed the next-best system by a factor of two to five times, and was up to 17 times faster than the third-ranking system.

"Many HPC systems today were designed for other markets and do well on only one or two HPC Challenge tests. AMD Opteron processors and HyperTransport technology provide a powerful foundation for the direct connect, balanced system architectures of our Cray XT3 and Cray XD1 supercomputers."

"Cray supercomputers based on AMD Opteron processors with Direct Connect Architecture give customers remarkable performance for their money on real-world problems," said Rich Oehler, Corporate Fellow at AMD. "AMD64 technology is being designed into many of the world's most powerful computers, including the world's largest AMD Opteron processor-based system, 'Red Storm,' a Cray supercomputer located at Sandia National Laboratories, that when analyzed on real-world problems and applications, has no match for providing architectural balance in a high-performance system." http://www.forbes.com/businesswire/feeds/businesswire/2005/06/16/businesswire20050615006114r1.html

Zeby dosledok podcenovaneho Linux-u
ANAHEIM, Calif. — When it comes to stability for EDA, tool integration, support for mission-critical enterprise applications and binary compatibility, Linux has a long way to go, according to experts at the Design Automation Conference here.

Now cited as the No. 1 operating system for EDA applications, Linux soared based on its promise of speed, freedom from proprietary operating systems, rapid innovation and flexibility. However, the latter three may be coming back to bite it.

"It's still the wild west out there," said Mike Evans, vice president of partner development at Red Hat, a leading Linux and open source provider. Evans described Linux as taking two separate paths. The first is open-source Linux for tweaking and adding improvements to the code. The second is for those "who just want and OS that's 10 to 20 times faster," he said.

http://www.eetimes.com/news/design/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=LCZ4PW3NW1X3EQSNDBCSKH0CJUMEKJVN ?articleID=164303517
http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=3082
htt p://www.cray.com/about_cray/news_events/amd_hpcc.html
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543~99378,00.html
Condensed Results - Base Runs Only - 58 Systems - Generated on Thu Jun 16 03:58:22 2005
System Information
System - Processor - Speed - Count - Threads - Processes G-HPL G-PTRANS G-Random
Access G-FFTE G-STREAM
Triad EP-STREAM
Triad EP-DGEMM RandomRing Bandwidth RandomRing Latency
Cray T3E Alpha 21164 0.6GHz 1024 1 1024
0.0482
[0.94% G-HPL ( system performance )]
(0.0000470)
[0.31% PP-HPL ( per processor )]
10.277
[4.72% PTRANS ( system performance )]
(0.010036)
[0.24% PP-PTRANS ( per processor )]

[% G-RandomAccess ( system performance )]

[% PP-RandomAccess ( per processor )]

[% G-FFTE ( system performance )]

[% PP-FFTE ( per processor )]
529.2
[10.03% G-STREAM Triad ( system performance - derived )] 0.517
[0.11% EP-STREAM Triad ( per process )]
[% EP-DGEMM] 0.03174
[0.23% RandomRing Bandwidth] 12.09
Cray XT3 AMD Opteron 2.6GHz 1100 1 1100
4.7823
[93.07% G-HPL ( system performance )]
(0.0043476)
[28.42% PP-HPL ( per processor )]
217.923
[100.00% PTRANS ( system performance )]
(0.198112)
[4.72% PP-PTRANS ( per processor )]
0.137002
[100.00% G-RandomAccess ( system performance )]
(0.00012455)
[23.91% PP-RandomAccess ( per processor )]
266.660
[100.00% G-FFTE ( system performance )]
(0.24242)
[45.62% PP-FFTE ( per processor )]
5274.7
[100.00% G-STREAM Triad ( system performance - derived )] 4.795
[0.97% EP-STREAM Triad ( per process )] 4.811
[3.42% EP-DGEMM] 0.28638
[2.11% RandomRing Bandwidth] 25.94
IBM Blue Gene PowerPC 440 0.7GHz 1024 1 1024
0.7164
[13.94% G-HPL ( system performance )]
(0.0006996)
[4.57% PP-HPL ( per processor )]
27.578
[12.66% PTRANS ( system performance )]
(0.026932)
[0.64% PP-PTRANS ( per processor )]
0.134994
[98.53% G-RandomAccess ( system performance )]
(0.00013183)
[25.31% PP-RandomAccess ( per processor )]
48.993
[18.37% G-FFTE ( system performance )]
(0.04784)
[9.00% PP-FFTE ( per processor )]
868.4
[16.46% G-STREAM Triad ( system performance - derived )] 0.848
[0.17% EP-STREAM Triad ( per process )] 0.919
[0.65% EP-DGEMM] 0.03461
[0.26% RandomRing Bandwidth] 4.81
SGI Altix 3700 Bx2 Intel Itanium 2 1.6GHz 1008 1 1008
5.1383
[100.00% G-HPL ( system performance )]
(0.0050975)
[33.33% PP-HPL ( per processor )]
105.666
[48.49% PTRANS ( system performance )]
(0.104827)
[2.50% PP-PTRANS ( per processor )]
0.032598
[23.79% G-RandomAccess ( system performance )]
(0.00003234)
[6.21% PP-RandomAccess ( per processor )]
15.662
[5.87% G-FFTE ( system performance )]
(0.01554)
[2.92% PP-FFTE ( per processor )]
1907.5
[36.16% G-STREAM Triad ( system performance - derived )] 1.892
[0.38% EP-STREAM Triad ( per process )] 5.884
[4.18% EP-DGEMM] 0.20288
[1.50% RandomRing Bandwidth] 6.82

Ina vec je ze ta XD1 co je provantalene s XD1 ktora stoji za 12 CPU 50.000 Euro a tu je 92 takych boxov a to stoji 4 600 000 USD

http://icl.cs.utk.edu/hpcc/hpcc_results.cgi
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=23986

AMD Chronology
UNIX to Linux Transition: AMD first used Linux to test AMD-K6® processor-based
systems in 1996. We started the transition to Linux for microprocessor design and
verification in 1997. The transition to Linux was rate-limited by the fact that the Linux
operating system was an emerging but promising technology at that time, which
resulted in the lack of available EDA software for Linux and the lack of industrystandard
64-bit hardware. AMD led the way with commercial Linux applications. AMD
worked with Platform Computing to port their Platform LSF (Load Sharing Facility)
cluster software to Linux long before the market moved to Linux.

Currently, all AMD internal EDA tool development is done on Linux for AMD64,
eliminating the need for specialized UNIX hardware. The benefit to AMD is tremendous
- the entire chip design process is on a homogeneous platform with the future
processor design completely done and taped out on AMD CPUs.

http://www.platform.com/PDFs/AMD_on_AMD.pdf

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Honza  |  16. 06. 2005 12:18  | 

ono tech chyb je tam mnohem vic, a ne jen faktickych, napr: "Cílový určení" nebo "a to se hojně používaným vzduchovým chlazením" tohle bych si nedovolil napsat ani nekomu po ICQ a naprosto nechapu jak je mozne ze to nekdo pusti na net. inu zive.

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rasto  |  16. 06. 2005 15:33  | 

To,co tu napisal kolega o AMD je vsetko pravda.Lenze... Napr.v nasej firme sme chceli kupit nejaky vykonny server s procesorom od AMD.Mame s IBM velmi dobre skusenosti,no v CR IBM serveri s opteronmi jednoducho nedodava.Vsetko je to dostupne iba v USA.

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MuVo  |  16. 06. 2005 12:48  | 

Kebo som bol ja majitelom zive.cz, tak toto by bol konecny a posledny clanok pre pana Konecneho. Tolko hrubiek a nepresnosti.... A ta perla o AMD vinku ma dorazila....

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p  |  16. 06. 2005 15:28  | 

No tak ja neviem, podla IBM.com je zatial jedina X41 na trhu (alebo bude v najblizsich tyzdnoch) a ta nesplna ziadne z veci ktorre tu boli napisane - 1. Ma 512MB RAM; 2. pouziva 1.5GHz P-M ULV; 3. graficka karta je Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900; 4. Opticka mechanika sa moze dodavat v kazdej konfiguracii a je vzdy externa.

A uvadzat cenu v $$$ je uplne zbytocna, chcelo by to skor porovnat s X40, ktora sa uz u nas predava.

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